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That hadn't been used for years at that point. and it was based on this intelligence about where we think they might be. this is a situation with a lot of open intelligence. we know an attack took place. the issue of whether or not there are chemical weapons that have been used in syria is not really in question. >> i'm with you. the use of the weapons is not an argument any more whether they're existing. josh, the whole question is, do you want to be in a position of colin powell who was used? his credibility was used to make case for war rather than him believing in the war. i tone know what...

To make the case for war. i don't know what he thought, but he was used. this guy today, didn't you feel that kerry really wanted to fight this war? he wants to do something. >> they've got two issue here we have obama in his second term working on his legacy. he wants his legacy to get america out of engagements in the middle east. he doesn't want his legacy to get into another one. then you john kerry. he has a serial problem. he was pushing for engagement with assad. he thought that assad could be turned, that he was basically a guy who was willing to break from iran and go with the united ...

Playing the colin powell role whom. wants to be there. >> he doesn't want to. but there is an important difference if we're talking about iraq and now. in 2003, the weapons of mass destruction debate are about weapons that no one had seen, that hadn't been used for years at that point. and it was based on this intelligence about where we think they might be. this is a situation with a lot of open intelligence. we know an attack tack place. the issue of whether or not there are chemical weapons that have been used in syria is not really in question. >> i'm with you. the use of the weapons is no...

Contact with the people that were major thinkers. i talked to a guy today who was a photographer that day, a young guy for the united press. s there's still that connection we won't have at the next big celebration. >> we'll be back with more of the music and celebration and memories as well as the former presidents of the united states, jimmy carter and then later this afternoon president of the united states, barack obama. you're watching the march on washington, this is andrea mitchell on the mall. dinner from walmart is less than $2.15 a serving. replacing one restaurant dinner a week save...

Sometimes, though, someone in leadership having to do this thankless job ends up drawing the particularly short straw. and that guy this year, that guy today, was john boehner. did you see what they made john boehner do today? that's next. boehner. did you see what they made him do today? oh, that is next. and didn't know where to start. a contractor before at angie's list, you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. no company can pay to be on angie's list, so you can trust what you're reading. angie's list is like having thousands of clos...