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He turned around and said i did it overseas. brian: from the layman, i give you money, i assume you are doing what you say. this guy is buying real estate, sam bankman-fried, in the bahamas. and he's investing in the 17th floor, the corrupt area. you hold the money, i give it to you. he just kept moving it. if the market doesn't fall out in 2008 -- >> i think he's still in business. his big four coconspirators took out $400 million. >> what took out bernie were the european investments. if he stayed with american investors. he had the madoff bond and

I'm bothered by his lying and it raises a bigger question. he lied about status. work for goldman within having a degree. so many of our members of congress have made money while being members of congress and overwhelmingly have a college degree. that's not the norm for the average american. why are we gate keeping access to the house of representatives in this way. he's responsible for his lies but they tell us something problematic about our culture. brian: can you lie your way to as congressional seat? >> it appears so. take the lies joe biden tells. there is the i'm the smartest guy, i was...