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He's going to drive a hard bargain on a lot of different issues rather than try to bring them into the fold. he doesn't feel like compromise is going to work. >> let's just say that what is happening at the congress right now is pathetic. we are asking not to bankrupt our children. we have a dysfunctional process. i think most of the blame still has to go to the republicans. they have had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. they don't know what they want, and they haven't decided what they want. but if i had to fault president obama, i would say sometimes he has governed ...

Than try to bring them into the fold. he doesn't feel like compromise is going to work. >> let's just say that what is happening at the congress right now is pathetic. we are asking not to bankrupt our children. i think most of the blame still has to go to the republicans. they have had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. they don't know what they want, and they haven't decided what they want. but if i had to fault president obama, i would say sometimes he has governed like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here, and he will not -- he'll talk wit...

Trying to bring them into the fold, he doesn't feel like compromise is going to work. >> first let's say what's happening is pathetic. when you think about the revolutionary generation, the civil war generation, world war ii generation, we've got a dysfunctional process. i think most of the blame still has to go to the republicans. they've had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. you don't know what they want. they haven't decided what they want. if i default president obama, i would say sometimes he governs like a visitor from a superior civilization. he comes in here and...

It's got to get to the place where republicans say, ok, we'll take a risk. this guy won't screw us. they don't feel that right now. >> chuck, just your reading of the immediate news that's going to be made over the course of today and tomorrow, again, what i think is significant, the president is saying we either get this deal now, or we'll go over the cliff. we'll come back right after the first of the year and try to get the tax cuts through again. but the republicans are going to be forced to be in a position that they'll have to say no because we'll put it on the floor. >> there didn't see...

Beautiful part of the country. we love charlotte but woodstock is great. bill: vice president joe biden taking another shot on governor romney on tax returns while campaigning in detroit just yesterday. have a listen on that message. >> he said the president is so out of touch -- out of touch. how many of y'all have a swiss bank account? how much do you have invested in the caymen islands. out of touch? woe, man. ladies and gentlemen, talk about out of touch. this guy won't even let you see his tax returns. bill: you know that has been a familiar theme for the past several months on behalf of ...