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Debate about all of these measures, and so there was a security apparatus that was put in place that got beyond the debate of the american public and congress failed to really keep that debate going. >> well, i was there, and we did have a debate once it was disclosed by the bush administration in its first term that the authority used for the program was the president's commander in chief authority and it didn't go through congress and it didn't comply with the foreign intelligence surveillance act. congress remanded fisa in 2008 and we had a debate. i wish more people had listened in -- >> s...

Thing he gets at is that this country did not have a real debate about all of these measures, and so there was a security apparatus that was put in place that got beyond the debate of the american public and congress failed to really keep that debate going. >> well, i was there, and we did have a debate once it was disclosed by the bush administration in its first term that the authority used for the program was the president's commander in chief authority and it didn't go through congress and it didn't comply with the foreign intelligence surveillance act. congress remanded fisa in 2008 and w...

Commander in chief authority and it didn't go through congress and it didn't comply with the foreign intelligence surveillance act. congress remanded fisa in 2008 and we had a debate. i wish more people had listened in -- >> seven years later we had a debate. >> well, yeah, but four of them were in secret. we had a debate. we tried to amend it earlier, it took a while, congress doesn't move very fast, especially since newt left but can i just finish my thought. we should have had a better debate. labeling this guy a traitor before he's convicted i don't think is fair, but i think what he did w...

Two months ago and to use it again for this moment, it's outrageous and i will not stand for this! >> steve: there you are a picture with your mother and brothers. >> brian: for the record, she does not have a favorite. >> steve: no. of course not. >> brian: one thing, she does not like this music. >> gretchen: she was not called for this poll. according to the poll, 34% of moms have a favorite. >> brian: right. but do you? >> gretchen: no. it depends on the day. this is the caveat that i give to that study. sometimes your kids make you angry, so maybe you like the other one a little bit bette...

Those are what those are meant more. >> wear the boots inside the pants or outside? that's the question. a former adviser to presidents ronald reagan and george hush ert walker bush. asked about fed chairman bernanke on cnn this morning. let's listen. let's watch. >> rick perry's an idiot, and i don't think anybody would disagree with that. >> well, i think michael might -- >> okay. i guess so. >> i think he meant -- i hope he meant, well, he may have meant generally. idiot, fed chairman treasonous saying you've been treated ugly if it gets down to texas when he disagrees with monetary. can't ...