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Long time ago if there were easy options. the fact is we re dealing with a nuclear-powered nation. if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul and 20 million people who live in seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost, and that s the reason we haven t pulled the trigger. you know, he s a great man, leon panetta. i ve known him forever. he used the word pull the trigg trigger, an unfortunate metaphor. what happens if this guy over here kim jong-un gets nervous and he hears talks coming out of this country about preemptive strikes and says, well, there s my excuse. i m going to release my artillery on seoul. this is my pretext for doing so. to me, that s scary. yes. so i think a lot of people right now are focused on whether or not north korea is going to do a nuclear test. tonight. tonight or potentially an icbm test. an underground test, the ....
The obama administration has. it s going to be interesting. it looks like trump s aggressive strategy may be a real change from the past. we ll see if it s safer. anyway, ambassador christopher hill over in seoul, john pom fret, thank you. senator max baucus. by the way, i call you senator because you were elected to that. ambassador is for guys who haven t been elected for that. and kelly, thank you very much for joining us. coming up, president trump has shown a willingness to use military force lately. remember what he told me last rch our hardball town hall. watch this. look, nuclear should be off the table. but would there be a time when it could be used? possibly. okay. the trouble is when you said that, the whole world heard, they re hearing a guy running for president of the united states talking of maybe using nuclear weapons. nobody wants to hear that about an american president. then why do we make them? why do we make them if we don t want to use them? the pol ....
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In communities that voted for donald trump. how do they renew their message. can we talk about two guys who haven t yet turned the page and we re wondering why? don jr. and eric trump, back in the news. i want to share this from the new york times. trump s son fearing quagmire to stop soliciting for charity. eric trump will stop directly raising money for his charity over worries it could be perceived as buying access to his father. really wethsy people for the most part don t ever run money for their foundation. the reason they have a foundation is they re rich. how is it we re still dealing with it? the trump brothers are just figuring this out, they shouldn t sell access to their dad? good use of another technical term in quagmire. this is the coffee conversation with ivanka sold for an extraordinary amount of money. i think it s a lot rich. we have talked about this before, for them to say they didn t know or didn t expect this criticism. this is overaccess sold for the highe ....
Of a network trying to get over there and join these militants in syria. now, if their plan did not succeed to join isis they also had plans to carry out terrorist attacks here in this country, perhaps attacking trying to kill the president of the united states or fbi agents and police officers. it s a very serious complaint against these three. and this is a really interesting case in several respects because the fbi and the national security division of the justice department have been looking to see if there are any indications of networks trying to get these people these recruits over to syria. and they haven t found it. this case presents that exact fear that they ve been wondering, they ve been expecting to find. two of these all of these men are residents of the united states. but two of them are citizens of uzbekistan. one is a citizen of kazakhstan. but i take it they were legal residents in the united states do we know that? they are, wolf. and what s interesting, too ....