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Raul, you are an immigration lawyer. green card holders were swept up in this ban. department of homeland security official has said that people holding green cards making them legal permanent u.s. residents were included in this executive order, even though there was confusion about that in the beginning. >> first of all, it might surprise people to know this. this has actually happened before under previous administrations, people who held green cards were sometimes detrained at airports. so it's -- however, it has never been done in such a blatant manner, in such an arbitrary manner and in ...

Whether green card holders are being affected by this order. take a listen. >> by having to put in an extra hurdle for a green card holder to get back into the country, how are you confident that doesn't violate their rights and doesn't end up making this order unconstitutional. >> first of all, the order is not affecting green card holders moving forward. that's number one. >> i'm confused by that. you keep saying going forward. you just said it did. >> if you would just slow down for a second lachi could answerr question. >> i understand that but you've twice confused me. >> so, linda, they ...