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People going unpaid. some of his former contractors can relate. >> by the way, government contractors are not going to get paid when the government comes back. so that's something important to note. joining us now is garrett haake on capitol hill and jeff bennett live at the white house. jeff, let's just start with the conversation that the president has in which he has threaten today declare a national emergency over the border wall. there have been a lot of discussions the last few days whether he can or can't. do you believe he's serious about this? >> i do believe he's serious. ali, sour...

Yes, let's get the government open and we can have a bigger fight for the rest of the funding anyway. that was coming whether or not you got $5 billion or more. i support getting $5 billion. i support getting more. but let's get the government open. >> senator gardner interviewed by the extremely garrett haake on capitol hill. >> our lead-off panel, jonathan allen, happens to be co-author of "shattered," the story of the hillary clinton presidential campaign. jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press, and josh gernstein. welcome to you all. jill, let me take you to the rose ga...

Government shutdown that is about to enter its third week. but with trump digging in on his demand for $5 billion to fund the border wall and speaker pelosi calling the wall, quote, an immorality, the question becomes how much longer can mcconnell leave to the president to end the standoff. for where we stand now, joining me is kelly o'donnell who i hope has had 20 seconds to die ghes everythi digest everything that handled. and also garrett haake. kelly, the president confirmed that he told congress allege leaders that the shutdown could last for months.allege leaders that the shutdown could ...

Now, and this is romney though trying to modulate that criticism when garrett haake and others caught up with him in the hallway. >> if the president were to say things of divisive of a significant nature, and i would do that and have in the charlotteville attack, and the khashoggi approach, and have continued to point out places where we are different and this is the great thing of this democracy and where there are agreement agreements we come together, and disagreements, we can express our opinions openly and honestly, and that is what creates trust. and i want to have trust with the presid...

He did me, he would have won the election, and does that make sense to you? and joining me on the hill, kasie hunt, and garrett haake, our great pair here on the hill, and at the white house nbc's kristen welker. kristen, take a first look at how the president is preparing to face-off against nancy pelosi and the new house majority. >> well, andrea, the president is a counter p puncher and you w it on full display yesterday, and that is the approach as he is preparing to go with this new reality and divided government for the first time since he has taken office, and he is going to have to d...