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Multi sensor sis ystems. it's going to require framework to go through and it's a damning document. let's not make any jokes about it. that document is explosive. >> malcolm nance, intelligence community veteran, author of "the plot to hack america," malcolm, thank you. appreciate you being here, my friend. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. lilly.
Trump/russia dossier, we believe malcolm nance may have been the first to be briefed of the existence of this dossier. appreciate you being here. >> my pleasure. >> how is it that you were one of the first people to learn about the dossier? >> well, i may have been one of the second persons to learn about the dossier. david corn managed to get ahold of the dossier relatively early on, more than a month and a half before the election. he called me out of the blue and he had known that i had published "the plot to hack america," which had come out about eight weeks before the election. prior to ...
Meanwhile, the senate judiciary committee has worked out a deal with trump jr. and manafort to hold a session also close to the public next week. the committee also asks them to turn over all documents related to what -- to that eight-person that we know of june 2016 meeting that included russian nationals with connections to the kremlin and the former kgb. now known as the fsb. all this comes as another member of trump's inner circle is under fire. last night "the washington post" broke the news that u.s. spy agencies intercepted alleged conversations that sergey kislyak says he had with offi...
Want to talk about this with, malcolm nance, 35-year veteran. including naval intelligence, special ops and homeland security. also the author of the timely book "the plot to hack america, how putin's spies and wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election." the book that preceded most of this conversation. what's going on there. what did we just witness there? >> i think we witnessed two parts of sergey lavrov's game. one, actual frustration that these questions are coming up in the middle of his discussion. the second part is, you know, russia has this strategy. we have a series of responses to...
>> the primary goal in my mind was to sew discord and try to delegitimize our fair election process. i also think another of their goals, which the entire united states intelligence community stands behind was to denigrate secretary clinton and to try to help then current president trump. >> joining us now, malcolm nance, msnbc counterterrorism and intelligence analyst, the author of "the plot to hack america," and david frum is still with us. malcolm, what did we learn today? and i mean we, not you of course, because you already know everything. but what did us news consumers learn in that he...