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What do you know about patten's role at cambridge analytica, with the parent firm of cambridge analytica. that's something we know from your reporting but we didn't see anything about it explicitly in the charging documents today. >> right. there are two things are really interesting about the parent company of cambridge analytica. in 2014 he started working in oregon for the parent company scl and he was focusing on micro targeting which we know is a big part of trump campaign's data operation in 2016. so he was working on that. and then he ended up working for cambridge analytica again in a ...

Interference in our election. what do you know about patten's role at cambridge analytica, with the parent firm of cambridge analytica. that's something we know from your reporting but we didn't see anything about it explicitly in the charging documents today. >> right. there are two things are really interesting about his work for scl group which is the parent group of cambridge and cambridge itself. in 2014, he started working in oregon for the parent company scl and he was fooking on microtargeting which we know was a big part of the trump campaign's data operation in 2016. so he was workin...

Part of that project involved hacking in, hiring israeli hackers to find dirt on their clients' opponents. >> where have i heard the before? >> exactly. so these are areas that he might be able to discuss with mueller, for example. if mueller was to ask about the operations, or how they did things, if it was above water. we don't know whether or not he had any role with cambridge analytica in 2016. there's no evidence that did he but it raises questions about yes would have stopped the work in 2015 going into the biggest election probably in his lifetime. >> one last question about your contac...

That when you're cutting money for cyber security in the budget, you ought to be able to pay attention to what's going on at the white house and understand that this is just your run of the mill prankster. this isn't some russian hacking in, hacking into the white house, or hacking the election. this is a run of the mill prankster who was able to do this. there better be some more controls on this. >> good point. david, in january, just before taking office, the president tweeted this. julian assange said a 14-year-old could have hacked podesta. why was dnc so careless? also said russians did ...

Dangerous, anti-russian, and they're optimistic that things could be better with president trump. >> such an interesting perspective, thank you very much. cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and host of "quest means business" richard quest and christiane amanpour w. what did he have to say? >> yes, the russians definitely wanted not to have hillary clinton as president, but not just because they hated her, but because the russians, it is analyzed and the view is that the russians want to mess with the very heart of america's global brand, which is democracy, free and fair elections. this...