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>> yes. charles probably knows the number. >> 1 hadn'1.4. >> that's troubling. we're starting to see increase creep in. we learned you can't stop it from growing. >> 1 hadn't 4. that's for producers. they can't pay more without passing on the price. >> correct. >> glenn: 1.4, they said it was annualized interest rate. 16% or something -- did you see that? >> no. but it's starting to creep up. >> glenn: do you have that, steven, do you know what i'm talking about? >> ultimate multiply it by 12. if we kept it up for 12 months. >> glenn: correct. you have inflation coming up. the way to have infl...

>> the inflation rate? >> yes. charles probably knows the number. >> 1 hadn'1.4. >> that's troubling. we're starting to see increase creep in. we learned you can't stop it from growing. >> 1 hadn't 4. that's for producers. they can't pay more without passing on the price. >> correct. >> glenn: 1.4, they said it was annualized interest rate. 16% or something -- did you see that? >> no. but it's starting to creep up. >> glenn: do you have that, steven, do you know what i'm talking about? >> ultimate multiply it by 12. if we kept it up for 12 months. >> glenn: correct. you have inflation coming u...