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Defeated soundly in wisconsin. by the way, also, walker in wisconsin, kasich in ohio, and rick scott in florida are now three new and very unpopular republican governors. and their unpopularity could give a boost to president obama's campaign in all three important states. ed rollins is the former campaign manager for presidential candidate michele bachmann and the former political director for president reagan in '84. and ron reagan is a political commentator and author. let me start with ed rollins. these states, just to get them clear, our late great colleague tim russert always used to tal...

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I have hugged them, and i have touched their leg, without intent of sexual contact. but, um, so if you look at it that way, there are things that wouldn't -- you know, would be accurate. >> are you denying that you had any inappropriate sexual contact with any of these underage boys? >> yes, i am. >> never touched their genitals? never engaged in oral sex? >> right. >> what about mike mcqueary, the grad assistant who in 2002, walked into the shower, where he says in specific detail, that you were forcibly raping a boy who appeared to be 10 or 11 years old? that his hands were up against the sh...

You? and he said, i'm running against some democrat. and the year we lost 26 seats, he beat a democrat. >> '82. >> '82. >> you mean that campaign i was involved in? >> that campaign you were involved. he is a very tough candidate. he was not expected to win in ohio. he came back, he won big. so my sense is they've got their guards up. they know they're in a battle. but as far as the presidential race, you know, tough battles sometimes make your troops stronger and we'll see. >> you know what, ron, out in california, there where you live, it seems to me, you saw the same exact thing, overkill. ...

I'm not sure it's going to work. here's my question to you. why do republicans, and maybe democrats do the same thing, enlighten me, they get ticked off at the other party, so they go in and settle old scores against the unions. that's really what they do. the public doesn't have a score to settle. it's the republican professionals that do. >> i think all of these governors came in with very serious budget problems, and obviously, one of the ways they thought they could resolve them, they had lit a fuse, they have energized the other side. i don't concede in any way, shape, or form that these ...