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The m.i.t. police officer who sat in his patrol car on campus. they know they were both there but they don't know who pulled the trigger. on the boston marathon bomb it was clear that tamerlan pressed the detonator that caused the first bomb to go off but the government could not prove whether dzokhar tsarnaev had his own detonator or control or whether tamerlan pushed that too. that is why the heart of the government's case was they are in this too and that is the approach to the case the jury has accepted without reservation. >> right now we are up to 14 counts against him, found guilty. sti...

Face on all of this when he was talking about boston, it is a small community and the marathon is a 26 mile block party and that is what it is. during the marathon, boston is family and this was just one big family that pulled together both in their strength and unity and work to bring this case to where it is right now. >> john how quickly will this move. i'm getting a moment at 2:08 we have the judge and the jury filing into the courtroom. and our insider is saying tsarnaev is looking at the door toward the jury members. this will move rapidly from this point. >> it is quickly -- >> tsarnaev...

In relation to a crime of violence, being the weapon of mass destruction. and count four weapon of mass destruction, pressure cooker two. again there were two different pressure cookers set off on thatdy. we understand there is no reaction in the courtroom. he has remained stoic during the process. and again if you are joining us he has been found guilty on counts one two, three and four. >> and this is very significant. this tells us the jury is positioning direct guilt on dzokhar tsarnaev for use of wmd's at the marathon bombing to kill americans. >> stand by. we're learning -- again if you ...

>> john kelly is also with us former former prosecutor. to many this would seem to be a slam dunk not only in the preparation but what happened in the days after. how much do you think the defense, judy clark, did. how much do you think her words are carrying with this jury? >> i don't think anything at this point of the trial -- when you mention a slam dunk slam dunks require a lot of meticulous work. and whether it was boston p.d. or the u.s. attorney offices, the witnesses or the victims, a lot of work went into making this case. the appearance of slam dunk it was. something mike barnacle s...

Conclusion of this trial, especially among people who followed the trial closely and read or heard about the testimony given, the autopsy results of young martin richard, the brutal way he died the intent of dzhokhar tsarnaev putting the backpack with his bomb in it right behind the little boy. we're going to find out, obviously, when the penalty phase comes to a conclusion, but it's been a mixed feeling. they just want the trial over. they want justice done. and i assume that justice certainly will be done at about 1:45 time. >> so mike, just to remind everybody exactly the toll that was take...