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Away. imagine if he was up against a real opponent. >> let me go to michael steele. this whole question, do you hear it among your colleagues of talk of some kind of -- i was thinking back in history 50 years ago. 1952. the last time a convention really picked somebody who hospital -- hadn't run was adelaide stevenson. he refused to run. the party people said he had to run. he wouldn't run. when it came time for the convention in chicago, he gave a barn burner of a host speech. he gave this great speech and he got the nomination. is that still possible in your party that a guy or woman could g...

Case study at harvard b school. tell me about that. the way he's looking at this campaign. >> the whole thing about mitt romney is he's doing everything technically right. and the problem is he is still losing to a ragtag opposition. no one took rick santorum seriously as a first tier presidential candidate. and newt gingrich who beat him in south carolina handedly was like the harold stassen of 2012. and yet mitt can't put them away. imagine if he was up against a real opponent. >> let me go to michael steele. this whole question, do you hear it among your colleagues of talk of some kind of -...

She is not going to speak up. but he can. >> and he does. today carney saying that the president, as you know, has pledged to ask his people to look at potential actions to address this from. hypothetically, what in the world could the president do at this point because he can't order the insurance companies to settle -- produce these insurance plans that have been canceled? >> this is typical of the white house. instead of -- understanding that when you have never run something and -- barack obama never ran anything really except, you know, maybe a senate office, hadn't run anything, taking a...

She is not going to speak up. but he can. >> and he does. today carney saying that the president, as you know, has pledged to ask his people to look at potential actions to address this from. hypothetically, what in the world could the president do at this point because he can't order the insurance companies to settle -- produce these insurance plans that have been canceled? >> this is typical of the white house. instead of -- understanding that when you have never run something and -- barack obama never ran anything really except, you know, maybe a senate office, hadn't run anything, taking a...

Let's talk about the debates. was it a mistakes or does he have to be in the debates? >> well, the governor has been in five debates. there have been eight republican debates. i think there's something like 18 more scheduled before the end of january, but it is an opportunity for the governor to talk about his best in the field jobs record, increasingly our jobs plan, mr. harwood mentioned the flat tax probably the governor put out earlier in the week. we're going to be doing more debates, and it is part of the process. >> but the bottom line is he's got to be able to compete. barack obama and...