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anthony: i i just i don t feel i m capable of going back and having an intelligent conversation about my experience. i feel all messed up emotionally. edgar: but i think this means you that you truly came here, because when you get close to something you understand it, you don t understand what is going on. when you re far from it, it seems kind of solvable and simple. when you go into it, you say, hey, it doesn t make any sense, you know? so, it means that you ve really been here. anthony: it is post-apocalyptic. it s like a science-fiction film. what the hell happened here? charlie: well, it is post-apocalyptic except for the fact there s several hundred thousand people living here. anthony: so the conventional wisdom seemed to be, it s time to get out of camden. why are you still here? tawanda: because the need is in camden. if every decent person in camden leaves camden then we never have a chance. anthony: you re going to stay? tawanda: i m not going an ....
Is raw meat, lamb, fresh mint, spring onion, mix it all together. and this is as the main course. it s called moussaka. minced meat, baked aubergine, green and red pepper, and chickpeas, and tomato and tomato paste. please help yourself. anthony: thank you. i was in beirut in 2006. this neighborhood was hit very hard. mr. hafez: yeah. anthony: were you here at that time? mr. hafez: yeah. it was a disaster. anthony: why this neighborhood? mr. hafez: because the people in this area, ninety-nine percent, they support hezbollah. archival: as israel buries its dead from a surprise hezbollah missile strike and the radical shiite group celebrates a victory, the rhetoric on both sides is at a fever pitch right now. [ sirens ] ....
Are not stupid. mr. hafez: in 2006, i have two sisters that lost their home. hezbollah take care of them. here in dahieh everybody support hezbollah. even the people who they are not religious, for one reason, because they feel protected by them. anthony: my host s support for hezbollah, typical for the dahieh neighborhood in south beirut, is staunch. mr. hafez: before hezbollah, lebanese people, they were always scared of israel. now when you say, israel, you say, ah, we don t care. anthony: in the early days hezbollah used tactics that just about anyone would call terrorism. when is it permissible, morally, to use tactics like a car bomb, or using civilian targets? mr. hafez: for me? anthony: for you. mr. hafez: i m against killing. against killing anybody, even israel. this person who i m going to kill, in car bomb, or whatever, doesn t he has family? anthony: what s the most important thing happening in the world today that needs to be ....
Resolved for things to be better? mr. hafez: isis. anthony: isis is number one. mr. hafez: number one. they killed hundreds and thousands of shia. they are devils. they are against everything, like everything on the earth, they are against. anthony: recently hezbollah has become heavily involved in the war in syria in defense of the assad regime. complicating matters and, uncomfortably enough, they are probably the best organized, best equipped, most serious obstacle to isis and al qaeda in the area. mr. hafez: most of the villages in the east of lebanon, they are christian, and they are sunni. if hezbollah wasn t there, it was no more christian in that area. this is the only reason i get the gun. this is the only reason for it. just to protect my children and my wife. anthony: twenty years, thirty years, will things be better? mr. hafez: i hope so. ....
Important thing happening in the world today that needs to be resolved for things to be better? mr. hafez: isis. anthony: isis is number one. mr. hafez: number one. they killed hundreds and thousands of shia. they are devils. they are against everything, like everything on the earth, they are against. anthony: recently hezbollah has become heavily involved in the war in syria in defense of the assad regime. complicating matters and, uncomfortably enough, they are probably the best organized, best equipped, most serious obstacle to isis and al qaeda in the area. mr. hafez: most of the villages in the east of lebanon, they are christian and they are sunni. if hezbollah wasn t there, it was no more christian in that area. this is the only reason i get the gun. this is the only reason for it. just to protect my children and my wife. anthony: twenty years, thirty years, will things be better? mr. hafez: i hope so. ....