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To be skeptical about military assurances of what we knew and how, having thought the french were foolish to try to hold on to their empire, my sense is he would have been very -- and he was. even though he did put military troops, even though his administration clumsily and half-assedly -- >> you said it, not me, brother. >> it's cable, it's cable. signed off on a coup that made up more committed. all the evidence i can find is he would have been very reluctant. you never would have had a situation where president kennedy would have gone on television and say forthrightly, we can't win this w...

The president of the united states stand up, when it's not politically convenient for him and it took a lot of risk, meant a lot to me and it made me proud to be an american and proud to be a soldier. >> clay, how do you think he handled that question? >> you know, again, sort of half-assed ee half-assedly. in order to be the president, i would hope you could take a stand and speak out against things you don't think are fair. that was not an example of someone doing that right there, obviously. and if someone wants to be in charge of the country, they've got to be able to say things that might...

And it took a lot of risk, meant a lot to me and it made me proud to be an american and proud to be a soldier. >> clay, how do you think he handled that question? >> you know, again, sort of half-assedly. in order to be the president, i would hope you could take a stand and speak out against things you don't think are fair. that was not an example of someone doing that right there, obviously. and if someone wants to be in charge of the country, they've got to be able to say things that might upset people every once in a while, and that would be not him doing that there. >> clay aiken and steph...