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Half-assedry. wow, could the other administration have been right? interesting. >> oh, imagine that. by way, your point about fully open southern border is something we should all keep in mind. obviously, maybe stream media has chosen not to cover that, but it is still a major issue, still a crisis. and you're right, that is just a fully open door anyone can come into america, and is we're not even talking about that. anita, i want to ask you because, look, people are talking about there's a new variant, and they're saying are we going see more shutdowns, more lockdowns? we know that the manda...

Called my father-in-law, former president donald trump, xenophobic and fear mongering when he banned travel to the united states from china at the beginning of the covid pandemic. and, you know, you look at what we have to obviously hear from joe biden there, i guess, look, it was a politically advantageous for him when he was running for president to, of course, call somebody xenophobic, fear mongering, trying to play up the political side of it, and now here we are, he is, in fact, restricting travel from multiple countries to the united states. what do you make of that? do you see the hypoc...

Already having travel-related cases that they've noted in israel, in belgium and other places, when you have a virus like this, it almost invariably is ultimately going to go, essentially, all over. >> all right. so we have a new covid variant, of course, and take a listen to what president biden had to say when he was asked about it from his nice if thanksgiving retreat in nantucket. >> i've decided that we're going to be cautious, make sure there's no travel to or from south africa and six other countries in that region. we don't know a lot about the variant except that it is a concern, can ...

Know that there have been very lax restrictions, if any, in the state of florida, you know? no mandates. governor desantis has gone out of his way to push back at every turn against anything like that. so why don't we have states like california who have very stringent rules when it comes to covid taking, you know, a note from florida? why aren't they trying to do the same thing? it's really a curious question. >> it's totally puzzling. and when you look at this omicron variant, this could end up being the omi-con variant. [laughter] seems like they're trying to get an awful lot of mileage out...