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For a lot of people. can people who are very committed to this cause take what would be considered a half loaf? my guess is yes. there's still no guarantee that the parliamentarian allows any immigration provision in the bill that would be a tough pill for democrats to swallow and causing people to talk about blowing up the filibuster and just a can of worms. a difficult issue for democrats and as anna noted among the many open irses in this reconciliation package which the house leadership wants to pass in a week or so. >> when we look at the confidence that both congress and the president tr...

It does not mean absolute. we are treating it as if it means absolute. so i hope that the committee will work on that to give a good, clear definition of what it's all about. and so that's all i've ever said and i did say at one point, a half loaf is better than no loaf at all. now the full loaf would be to get rid of qualified immunity. no loaf would be to keep it. so what's the half loaf? somewhere between getting rid of it and keeping it. >> so respectfully to make sure i'm understanding you correctly, would you accept a bill that does not change qualified immunity as it stands today? >> i'...

Dictionary, qualified means limited. that's the first word. so we seem to be interpreting qualified as being absolute. it doesn't mean absolute. so what i would hope these negotiations will come up with a very good definition for what qualified immunity is, and we can agree to something that both sides will be relatively satisfied with. you never get all that you want, but i would hope we will get something between no loaf and the full loaf. >> let's talk about a half loaf in terms of infrastructure. a week ago things were looking better. it sounded like discussions between democrats and repub...

Compromised upon. >> the issue of whether to end qualified immunity for police officers seems to be this sort of key sticking point. is that what it takes to get this bill through the senate? would you be okay with leaving that debate aside for another day? while it may not get done in the senate, we're actually seeing a lot of states address it already. >> let me repeat what i said some weeks ago and seem to have been misunderstood. i do believe a half loaf is better than no loaf at all. what we sent to the senate is what i consider to be the whole he loaf on qualified immunity. that is to sa...

Seriously. >> yeah. >> there is something satisfying about the idea. >> $14 billion of assets el chapo controls and he thinks that should go to the wall. >> mexico will pay for the wall after all. i think they are looking for ways to bridge the delta between $5.7 billion and $1.375 billion. there is no way around this. donald trump, to sell this to the sean hannitys, the base of the party needs to look like he's not taking a half loaf or really a quarter loaf. >> how about no loaf? >> right. that's the problem. he has to be able to say, i think, look, i'm getting the money. we are going here, ...