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If he's not trying to give an impression of being an asset, he's doing a very bad job. >> carl, i want to sask you or start with this report that mueller has requested an interview with trump. trump's lawyers say no way. that's not a big surprise. >> not a big surprise. this president has at every turn tried to stiff, demean, and undermine and bury the mueller investigation. and he continues to do so. the real question -- two real questions. one, director clapper got to the question being a pawn. the evidence suggests, indeed, trump is, has been a pawn of the russians. of putin. and big questi...

Became a pawn, fully witting, half witting of vladimir putin perhaps at helsinki and what we saw on the campaign. that's one of the things that mueller is trying to determine. we don't know a lot about this president and his presidency but what we do know is that he has not been truthful about almost anything of significance about his presidency. he has tried to feed his base. we have had in this country situations where maybe half the country hates the president of the united states at one time or another. we've never had a president that hates half the country. that -- that -- look at what w...