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Right back through this. >> yeah i think so. look. i think graham and durbin their proposal is way out there. if you look at the numbers it probably could get up to am nesty for 5 million people. that would be almost twice the am nesty in 1986. i don't think most people realize that are focusing on that. there's not enough on the other side to justify a deal. i think it should be dead on arrival. and i hope the senate starts with a better proposal. >> you think daca a am nesty. >> you refer to it as am nesty. >> daca is a farm of am nesty. >> that's how staunch conservatives see it. >> that's ...

Eight in the senate with a bipartisan immigration bill. that bail -- bill went nowhere and got defeat house republicans who talked about am nesty and the like. now, coming forward we had president trump who said he wants a deal on daca, he set the march deadline saying, hey, the bipartisan deal presented to him in the white house initially looked like it was promising. then we come back and see it explodes and makes that unfortunate statement. i don't think it's a one-sided deal at all. of course, when you look at the polls at the moment i think it's a 20-point gap in the abc poll in terms of ...

Racially insensitive he is, how ignorant it is or how simple-minded the comment is and how so many people just find this to be normal and are making excuses for the president. that's almost just as troubling as the other parts. >> well, this notion that the white house thinks these comments will play well with the president's base, that just the bill should be craftwood love, he crushed from his base talking about his he was going back on word. he was allowing am nesty. today gave him a chance to show that he was tough. and that he would get rid of the diversity visa and stop all from

>> you used 2 words i take issue with. number 1 is ham nesty. -- amnesty. i was at the white house and my personal position you am with the president. what president obama did was illegal. i supported more money for homeland security. for the wall. kate's law and all of those things. get more security. we should have a program -- >> laura: are you against chain migration? >> yes. let me finish. let me finish what i am saying. i am for those things. we should have a program for

With. number 1 is ham nesty. -- amnesty. i was at the white house and my personal position you am with the president. what president obama did was illegal. i supported more money for homeland security. for the wall. kate's law and all of those things. get more security. we should have a program -- >> laura: are you against chain migration? >> yes. let me finish. let me finish what i am saying. i am for those things. we should have a program for