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Was to the ukrainian president was a great and honorable call. he did not say whether he would actually release the transcript, though he hopes people will get chance to see it. matt gorman and robert wolf rejoin me. one other topic, but let me just get your thoughts on this. robert, he is full bore. >> people should read today's wall street journal. joe was working on anti-corruption along with the g-7 and imf. the president was down 14 points to joe biden this week. not surprising that he is deflecting. >> dana: this comes to flight not because he wanted to go against joe biden but because o...

President of ukraine. it's just a democratic witch hunt. here we go. they failed with russia. they failed with recession. they failed with everything. now they're bringing this up. the one who's got the problem is biden. look at what biden did. biden did what they would like to have me do. except one problem, i didn't do it. what biden did is a disgrace. what his son did is a disgrace. >> this starred yesterday, this idea that the whistle blower did not have first hand knowledge of the conversation or whatever it was that the complaint was ultimately about. the president mentioning that after ...

Interested in corruption. >> washington examiner had an article this morning suggesting that whistle-blower did not have first hand knowledge of this. but if you investigating the president, should you not also investigate the person who might become president? >> a lot of conversations in washington have begun with the word if. we don't know. i think advocates of impeachment in this case, carry a heavy burden. with russia investigation there was a lot of misreporting, when mueller report came out it did not provide data that democrats wanted to impeach. and all of these charges, have ilillust...

President, and you can't do that to other countries, but with all of that said, we had a great conversation, and very straight, very honest conversation. i hope they can put it out. >> now, senator cornyn did say that he didn't believe that the whistle-blower had first hand knowledge of that conversation. he seemed to be suggesting it is second or third hand and so we have to get to the bottom of that. and senator cornyn is speaking, and i would love to have a more report to you, but it is too noisy and as they say down here, i have to hand it back to y'all. >> okay. hans nichols, thank you. ...

Elected to the house. and when he was, it was 2006. and 2006 was very much a year where foreign policy and national security was on the ballot primarily in the form of iraq. iraq was doing so terribly we took back -- the democrats took back both the house and senate primarily on frustration with how poorly the war was being prosecuted. watching the mayor last night, boy, would i love to see that matchup with donald trump. first of all, you've got an almost 35-year age difference and the mayor was very compelling and sobering when he said we're coming up on a point where we'll have the first ca...