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He was campaigning? >> no, in fact, my client engaged our firm at the very outset of things in september of 2016, solely for the purposes of suppressing the story because he wanted to protect the image of his children's mother in the eyes of his children. and he paid hand somely to make sure that as many people that knew about the story did not run with the story, including political operatives. national media members, including local news, newspapers. the goal and objective was not to put minors in harm's way. and it wasn't until january and this year after a very high feeding frenzy in decem...

Doesn't deserve a place in the public dialogue. i would also say, though, i think the issue for a and e here, and i completely agree they are a private company and can do what they want, there is a layer of corporate hypocrisy here where yes, it's a reality at the show and skrimted and we know it's not really real. but the whole free song of this show, the whole appeal is hey, let's look at these fascinating, slightly cooky, red neck christians from louisiana and see what they are like. for the network to profit so hand some-- hand somely and act offended when guess what, they turn out to say ...

Financial status of the company? >> basically, they have this product that everybody wants, or at least sports fans want, the n so, they are able to go become to the cable system operators and say, look, this is what we have and pay for it and pay for it hand somely. >> so sub fees went up and up and up? >> 20% compounded, the operative word being compounded, over eight years. >> so, even before selling a single ad, what were they taking in purely from the fees? >> well, during the years it changed but now over $4 a household. so, that's, you know, incredibly high. >> that's billions of dollar...