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Blacksmiths and how many guests took a crack at opening this thing until stephen mills showed up. stephen mills is with me now. stephen, how? it took you one fry triand it was like bada bing, bada boom. >> thanks for having me. it is just like that. a lot of good luck that day for sure? >> how did you even come up with this combination? where did this come from. >> i was there with my wife and kids and i just knelt down and looked at the combination lock and it ran zero to 60 so i just tossed my head for a second and let's give 20, 40, 60 a shot. and so i done -- the typical combination lock t...

President was going to be served with a subpoena, he's lawyer, david kendal, called starr and said, no, no, no, we'll cooperate. that's what's going to happen here. the president has got to speak in order to rebut this accumulating evidence of obstruction of justice. >> laura, it's a game of chicken, though. mueller has to take the risk he's going to get that subpoena from the grand jury. the president has to take the risk that he won't, right? who is taking a bigger risk here? is it risk free for bob mueller to go that route of having to force a subpoena? >> my money would actually be with ro...

That's what's going to happen here. the president has got to speak in order to rebut this accumulating evidence of obstruction of justice. >> laura, it's a game of chicken, though. mueller has to take the risk he's going to get that subpoena from the grand jury. the president has to take the risk that he won't, right? who is taking a bigger risk here? is it risk free for bob mueller to go that route of having to force a subpoena? >> my money would actually be with robert mueller who i doubt would swerve his hand wheel at any point in time. we have a game where as long as trump's legal team can...