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Against for years are going to be held as soon as the end of this month. >> that is a surprise to me. that would be a precondition for talks. but i think we're all trying to completely understand or at least partially understand what's going on. >> and in leadership, which is your new book, mr. broffman, what is the -- how does this match up against the traditional way when we saw bill clinton in 1994 talking about 16 months that were spent preparing for a framework. now it didn't -- it didn't work and that the north koreans cheated with a parallel nuclear program, secret program, but they did...

Peninsula. this agreement is good for the united states, good for our allies and good for the safety of the entire world. and the art of the deal maker. turning diplomacy upside down as staffers watch the president agree to a summit without preparation, blindsiding his secretary of state. >> we are a long ways from negotiations. i think we just need to be very clear-eyed and realistic about it. >> former national security adviser and u.n. ambassador susan rice and former chairman of the joint chiefs, martin dempsey, joining us this hour. good day. on this day of a lot of breaking news, i'm a...