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President to do to interfere with a probe by the department of justice. he said it would be a violation of the president's office. >> the president has done that with mike flynn and the new york investigation, when he asked why more wasn't being done to control the investigation into him, his kids, his important business. that was an important answer. it sets the stage for something to be done about it. he said if the president were to offer a pardon in exchange for a witness's silence, that would be a crime. those are important things. we have to see how he applies those facts. the question i...

The case? i mean is this one of those things where if the da brings these sorts of charges, they're fairly confident that it's an open and shut case? >> great question. hard answer, craig. here's how i would put it prosecution is not about crime. prosecution is about evidence. there are a lot of crimes that are heard about, talked about, victims that come forward. but you don't have the evidence to move forward. that is the high bar the prosecutors face. this underlying incident which the prosecutor says is a crime and which bill cosby previously denied is old. it is hard to have any physical ...