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I should mention full disclosure, many years ago we worked together. >> we did. >> i start with you. what is at stake tomorrow? >> what's at stake is whether the cia nominee, whether director for central intelligence agency, someone who will work in the shadows, someone who will have to be trusted to work in the american interest without any oversight can be trusted with that power. there are many people who made hard calls after 9/11. she's been offered as someone who made hard calls. i don't know that following orders is a hard call. doing what you're told is not hard call. doing what's mora...

His re-election in 2012. the president's not running for re-election and there's an intervening election, a congressional election in 2014. the public opinion polls are clear about who's winning the battle right now. >> show that first one about people i supporting the shutdown, how many people support the shutdown. dee dee myers yesterday gave a fantastic litany about why did the republicans do this? they lost one presidential race, they lost another presidential race. they lost senate races. all the polls are against them. here is -- and by the way. >> hard call. >> let's keep that up for a ...