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Interest. paul: that was president trump outlining his administration's national security strategy this week in a speech that identified the growing global threats to the united states and called out key national rivals by name. so what does it tell us about the emerging trump foreign policy doctrine, and does the rhetoric match the administration's actions so far? let's ask cliff may, he is president of the foundation for defense of democracies. good to see you again, cliff. what's the biggest takeaway we should have from the president's new strategy? >> it strikes me as hard-headed, realisti...

Interest. paul: that was president trump outlining his administration's national security strategy this week in a speech that identified the growing global threats to the united states and called out key national rivals by name. so what does it tell us about the emerging trump foreign policy doctrine, and does the rhetoric match the administration's actions so far? let's ask cliff may, he is president of the foundation for defense of democracies. good to see you again, cliff. what's the biggest takeaway we should have from the president's new strategy? >> it strikes me as hard-headed, realisti...

>> he's someone as a behind the scenes, soft spoken, massager of donald trump and the presidency. he comes out as a hard headed new jersey real estate. he was birthed into a scandal. he had to rebuild a family name. here he is playing the scandal playbook itself out in washington. >> emily, you also have written in the first six months, kushner is less moderate in moderating. that is true. many thought he would be more, sort of the democrat, if you will, to bring his father more -- his father, the former democrat, to the center. what surprised you the most in the first six months for things he...

Place, a start-up visa provision. hopefully the focus will be on innovation and job creation in the middle of the country, on immigration so we can win a global battle for talent. that's where they need to focus, not on these other issues. >> this in a way is a great tragedy of what's happening right now because there are people inside the white house who do have a ens about what businesses need to flourish, what the country needs to actually become more vibrant, and you can argue about the details of the policy, but there are people around the white house who have hard-headed strategy ideas. ...

When it's in our own interests to intervene. we must be strong, smart and hard-headed and we must demonstrate the resolve necessary to stand up for our interests. and whether it is the security of israel in the middle east or the baltic states in eastern europe, we must always stand up for our friends and allies in democratic countries that find themselves in tough neighborhoods, too. [applause] we each have different political traditions. we will sometimes pursue different domestic policies and there may be occasions on which we disagree. the common values and interests that bring us together...