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El centro and el paso. brian: 80% of the fentanyl comes across the border comes through ports of entry. are we better off putting money in detection devices. >> why need both and president's budget requests both. we need investment at the border, too. we see hard narcotics come between. using large groupings of families to divert our agents and bring smugglers behind with the hard narcotics. that's a phenomenon that we need to stop. brian: caravan say we are going to walk down 20, 30 miles to walk through the border if i can't get through tijuana into san diego. >> right. brian: right now you ...

Have a consistent system so they are not trying at all. >> at the port of entry they are being told the line is so long don't bother. they are in a catch 22. you are telling them don't come in between ports of entry yet the line so long some people are alleging it's being slow walked at ports of entry in order to discourage. what's going on? >> that's not the case. we have capacity issues. take a port like san ysidro. over 130,000 people a day are at that port of entry. the busiest in north america. one of the busiest in the world. it's also the site where most of the hard narcotics coming int...

Illegally, especially not the bad actors. so i want to be clear on the facts here in the caravan. they weren't like coming in droves to our country. it was a protest to show the journey from central america and mexico and those that could get into america. that's not exactly what happened here. go ahead. >> right. the protest is a symbol of the problem that people around the world from central america and along the southern border, the greatest and most recent example, they're not certain that we'll be serious about that border. that's why the president talks about the wall. that's why we have...

>> >> trends, they were starting in january, things kind of calmed down, but they have signed of reescalated and starting seeing an increase of more people coming in and just continuing to enter. >> we are seeing an upscale in the narcotics, hard narcotics. that's gone up a lot. brian: we know how the white house wants to fix that. >> why are building a wall on the southern border which is absolutely necessary. >> what did the president tell you when he got the job? >> build the wall. protect our country. brian: what do the women and men think. >> if somebody could build a barrier would that h...

And sold for 20 to $30 million on the black market. all of that from a small container that looks like this. >> the vast majority is produce ed in china. it comes into the u.s. two ways. comes into mexico where they are combined with heroin. the other way is american consumers buying it direct, oftentimes from vendors out of china? >> it gets mailed in? >> u.s. mail, very common, a small quantity of fentanyl is hard to detect in the masses of letters that come into the u.s. every day. >> how effective is a wall at preventing drugs from getting into the united states. >> in terms of hard narcot...