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>> i forgot he was in the race. >> that's not -- >> very militarily oriented. then you have trump who's playing the domestic side about it about not taking the syrian refugees. you know what's happening in the republican party? we have two polar opposites. we have the hard neocon and the noninterventionists, isolationists. we need a happy medium between them. >> can an outsider get you there? >> oh, yeah. nixon and reagan, their foreign policy was the right balance of being strong militarily. >> a guy like senator rand paul? >> no. he'll be out of this race before thanksgiving. >> to support j...

>> that's not -- >> very militarily oriented. then you have trump who's playing the domestic side about it about not taking the syrian refugees. you know what's happening in the republican party? we have two polar opposites. we have the hard neocon and the noninterventionists, isolationists. we need a happy medium between them. >> can an outsider get you there? >> oh, yeah. nixon and reagan, their foreign policy was the right balance of being strong militarily. >> a guy like senator rand paul? >> no. he'll be out of this race before thanksgiving. >> to support john's point, let me just say -- ...