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Sinema and manchin? why is there this reluctance to science the infrastructure bill, get that done and then do the human infrastructure? it se seems like members of the democratic caucus don't trust them. >> absolutely i trust them. i believe that both of them are negotiating in good faith. but this is a negotiation. we don't all see this exactly the same way. it isn't enough to say, we will find an agreement. we need to understand what exactly that agreement is going to be. that i think is really at the root of why we want -- why we made that statement. negotiations are hard. hard stuff is ha...

Him right now, would this be high up on the list of concerns? >> well, first, i'd advise and remind him of history, which is the last three, four, fooi pres -- five presidents have gone through the late summer, early fall. president bush went through it, president clinton went through it. stay focused on the long term on this and get through the months of hard stuff. i think more important than anything is containing the covid epidemic, which then directly affects our economy. both of those things go together and are enteinner locked togeth and will determine the jobs approval rating will dete...

Week he's going to reengage on this. certainly this is not nearly the figure that the white house first put out for an infrastructure bill, the hard stuff of highways, broadband, bridges, things like that. there's heat from the left, democrats, saying why are you going soft? he's trying to focus on getting republican buy in on this, there may be a part, the c.a.r.e.s. act, they use only democrats. but here they want republicans on board, they want to get to 10. that's what we're watching this week. >> it's going to be a balancing act. something we talked to aoc about last thursday when she was...

>> i don't think any of this is going to be easy. to garrett's point, when you get to this point in negotiation, all of the easy stuff, if there is any easy stuff in compromise these days is done. you are down to the hard stuff. if you can't get something like this done, i don't think that augers for a lot of other stuff getting done in a larger bipartisan way. i think it's going to be a big challenge much i think if you can't get this over the finish line, it might be a longer, hotter summer in washington than most people expect. >> the congressional office hasses to score those. we are not g...

Powerful adult in the room. there was an aspect of trump that catapulted a lot of these leaders more to the en center. people were talk being angela merkel as the leader of the free world. >> her last summit. >> this dramatic picture from quebec when trump is there with his arms crossed and she's leaning across the table. france does miss trump's unpredictability in that it let's france come in and play the responsible grown up, especially on security matters. he's still pressing macron for strategic autonomy. it will be interesting to see how biden positions himself of course from here we go ...