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It's the same language that was used frankly in st. louis to talk about black people stealing the election in 2000 when that didn't happen. it was the language that trump used to talk about people stealing, trying to steal the election in 2016. so it is to link blackness or brownness with criminality, with stealing the election from good, honest, hard-working coded white americans. it is a fear tactic and it is a fear tactic that is not based on any evidence. when the voter suppressors themselves go to try to prove that there's voter suppression, they can't pull up this massive body of work th...

Honest, hard-working coded white americans. it is a fear tactic and it is a fear tactic that is not based on any evidence. when the voter suppressors themselves go to try to prove that there's voter suppression, they can't pull up this massive body of work that this is happening. >> michael, listen, i want to get this point in. really quick response if you will. there's a study in the "washington post" that found minority participation in the elections is lower in places that restrict voter i.d.s -- voter i.d. laws where it's implemented. that's the point, correct? >> that's exactly the point....