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The fold. but they have a long history. is it going to be serious? i talked to some romney land people over the weekend, and they believe this was really going to be a courtesy call. whether this is changing in these hours since that meeting happened, we'll have to wait and see, but this would be a big deal to put someone like mitt romney in a secretary of state position. that would signal to people that donald trump is serious about leading rather than just rewarding his friends. >> charlie, my memory is short and i have never covered an election. how unusual is this massive transition, the h...

Disagree with him on most matters of national security. he's been sort of very open-minded about extreme rendition, about using methods that some people consider torture. he's on one, i would say, somewhat extreme side of the torture debate -- sorry, of the surveillance debate. so you know, i am concerned about some of his stances, but this, of course, is what the confirmation process is for. to sort of bring out where mike is on these things. i will tell you, i know him very well. i consider him a friend. he's a hard-working guy. the senate needs to do its job to make sure that mike is not to...

Off the table is to do what every prdz and most senior leaders in the country have done and say i'm completely removing myself from control of my wealth. >> do you actually believe he will do that? he will set up a real blind trust? >> i don't. i don't. look, i see no -- i have seen nothing since the man was elected to suggest that he is changing in tone, which is actually very disappointing to me. right out of the box on his victory speech, he talked about infrastructure. some of us said thang submitst'g we can work with him on. thehe brings steve bannon to the white house, no, i don't have a...

Advice. and now you have mike flynn, who is very much the same kind of a character who will be in charge of national security policy. that's a very dangerous, combustible mix for the country. >> congressman, before you go, i also have to ask you about the other major intelligence announcement today which was mike pompeo, the congressman, being named the trump nominee for -- to run the cia, to be director of the cia. you've sort of welcomed that announcement. you're not opposed to everything that trump has announced thus far. it sounds like you're keeping an open mind about when congressman pom...

>> when somebody quotes an ex-spouse, i hardly think it's worth respaonding to. they rarely say complimentary things. >> but if you were to put that aside and respond to weaver? >> calling hame white supremacist, neand ruthaul. >> and as a friend of mine but she's somebody who did not support donald trump and i understand why people want to continue this campaign. as somebody who's been involved in this campaign and worked somewhat with steve bannon. i found him to be an honorable guy, hard working guy. i understand why they want to label him and continue to stir the pot. >> sir, this isn't th...