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sophisticated serve-part plan to overturn the presidential election and prevent the transfer of presidential power. in our hearings you will see elements of each element of this plan. donald trump and his advisers knew that he had, in account fa, lost the elections, but despite this, president trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to convince huge portions of the u.s. population that fraud had stolen the elections from him. on this point, there is no room for debate. those who invaded the capitol and battled law enforcement for hours were motiva...

But there are other blunders, top that with the fabrications, top that with the, with the -- baseless assertions. and people are starting to go, well, wait a second here, this is kind of only reinforcing the worst perceptions of this president and this white house. >> you say that? why do you say that? >> become the story. >> you say it reinforces the worst perceptions. >> it wasn't 24 hours. couple hours afterwards, on wolf blitzer's show, pretty humble saying he, there was no excuse for what he said. why do you say this reinforces the worst perception? auz a >> i was talking to his remarks t...