Back and. i think that l.a. was a struggle for him especially the first year it was a very steep cliff and you couldn t climb the cliff you needed ropes and times and a harness and. you know you couldn t just walk up it it was scaling up a sheer face. he did it he did it but that s the thing is he would always tell me i d be like is this too hard and he said i m just going to work as hard as i need to and never give up ever and he ....