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The right thing and why? >> i think they did the wrong thing getting out and the right thing coming in and that is coming from the 2013 shutdown. i do think senator schumer, called shutdown schumer, overplayed his hand. didn't think that we would be able to manage a should thedown as well as we did, and had no choice, but to cave and that was the word the press was using yesterday and re-opened the government. >> isn't this very similar to 2013 on principle? didn't believe in the aca. you wanted to do everything you could to not get it funded and here you have the democrats saying that d.r.e.a...

Probably -- or we absolutely will have to have a border security piece to that legislation, but there are many different people working on this all over the hill, and i am optimist take our group of 25 bipartisan senators have shown the way forward if you're willing to work hard and listen to one another. >> i know that an x factor is the president, and we have reported on how the position seems to shift around, and i know mcconnell was uncertain as of a few days ago where the president stands, but mick mulvaney said something to me that was troubling. he said when i kept asking him, what is h...

Senator schumer said he gave the president everything he wanted on the wall. i challenge that. senator schumer says he insists that he gave it. we'll have a discussion. did he really offer $20 billion in appropriated funds or did he just offer $20 billion in authorized funds? >> that was white house budget director mick mull vavaney on " day" said it depends on what he gets in return. let's go to cnn political director david chalian. that's not a position, that's a negotiation and that's where president trump starts. >> i don't even understand it, guys. what does that mean? either you want to,...

Empathy for the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and a desire to give them a pathway to citizenship as long as they obey the rules and i think we can get there. i really do. >> well, i appreciate the optimism. let's see what happens in the process and senator, you are always welcome to come here and tell the american people how it's going and what your concerns are. >> thanks so much, chris. >> i heard you're the one who threw the stick and broke the elephant. i just want to get it out there. just kidding. thank you very much, senator. >> allison. >> very colorful stick. great to see it. as we mentioned, white ...

>> again, depends on what we get in exchange. what do we get for a border security? what do we get for a wall? senator schumer said he gave the president everything he wanted on the wall. i've challenged that. senator schumer says that he insists that he gave it. we'll have a discussion. did he really offer $20 billion in appropriated funds or did he just offer $20 billion in authorized funds? >> does that sound right to you? i get the bickering on the wall, and how much money, how much wall, how much fence and all of that stuff. i get it. i get it, but when we're talking about the d.r.e.a.m.e...