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Fascinating, down to the wire as it often is. what do you think is behind the santorum surge? in "the des moines register poll", it really is in the last two days his numbers increased dramatically. >> i think the cnn poll is behind the santorum surge. i talked to a lot of campaigns and pollsters outside who saw him trickling up, crowds greeg, but after the cnn poll all of a sudden it spiked up dramatically. part of it i wonder is it psychospsych psychosomatic. >> is that, mary, part of it, is that he's the last guy that hasn't bennet front-runner and hasn't had the attack ads against him? he'...

Part of it i wonder is it psychosomatic. >> is that, mary, part of it, is that he's the last guy that hasn't bennet front-runner and hasn't had the attack ads against him? he's the last guy standing? >> yes, charlie cook, who's by all equations the best of the handicappers says he's the remainder man. people on the campaign say the surge has stopped. so -- and he has -- he had problems coming in and those problems will come out. so, the typical -- nothing's typical this year but the late surge here, the fluidity typically goes to the late surger. but he's really not surging, according to peopl...