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Run in almost ten years since she ran the last time. i think it's important we have competition on our side. i think senator clinton, unless she has competition, she may go in the ring a little rusty. >> at the same time, a lot of folks are saying -- democrats are saying they think marco rubio because of the generational contrast might be the toughest challenge as well as his ability to draw on hispanic americans who otherwise be this the democratic camp. do you agree with that? >> i think senator rubio could be a strong candidate. the fact he is taking a strong pro defense, national security ...

He served two terms as governor in a big state. of course there will be controversial stuff in the e-mails but politics 101, get it out early. >> that's right. two things immediately taken away from this jeb bush news. one he's sending a signal to governor christie of new jersey. as you deal with your bridge episode and all the questions about disclosure in your office, i'm disclosing everything and i'm going to put it all out there. the other part of the news jeb bush will release an ebook, that's how governor bush wants to run the campaign. mike murphy wants him to be disruptive if he runs a...

What are your thoughts and why were you so supportive when others weren't? >> i want to see what a mission h -- politician has done. as we see in the republican primary in oregon, there's always a danger of someone who hasn't run for any elected office before. suddenly you get late news about a stalking allegation we haven't heard before. with an incumbent, you don't have to worry about that. mcconnell, we don't really have that many liberal republicans left. mcconnell has like a 90% conservative rating. what are they doing? >> let me ask you a question. >> instead of wasting money trying to t...

Others weren't? >> because as i say, i mean i want to see what a politician has done. that always means more than a challenger saying this is what i'm going to do. we'll see. also as we see to leap ahead to the next race you'll ask me about, as we see in the republican primary in oregon, you know, there's always a danger of someone who hasn't run for any elected office before. you get late breaking news of a fracking allegation. with an incumbent or someone who has held some ele you don't have to worry. this is as bad as they will get even with pressure from chamber of commerce. we don't reall...

Those people out of the country, they are probably among the more active republican voters in republican presidential primaries. >> that's right. they're the voters who rejected rick perry. they're the voters who rejected newt gingrich also, who was talking in 2012 in a bit more compassionate way about illegal immigrants and also saying that it was unrealistic that you would round up 12 million people and send them back to their respective countries. it's unclear to me what jeb bush is doing. it is clear to me that he has been out of politics for some time, hasn't run for office in over a deca...