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Had and say we didn't need that nsa program. we could have gotten spa judge to go further based on what we have built into the system. >> i know we'll ask questions about that. to demonstrate why the scope of these perhaps are necessary and the pact those programs have had. why the methodology chosen to collect the information and the processes and controls put in place to protect that information are appropriate and reasonable and important to keeping our soldiers safe in the war on terror and safe here at home. martha: it seem the examples in afghanistan, and when you look at the boston mara...

They never asked these two individuals to turn themselves in. now, any street detective will tell you that in any kind of case, even a case like this one, one of the first things you want to do, if you have images of a suspect, you tell that suspect, even if it's via a press conference, look, we're going to find you, turn yourself in, let us work this situation out. okay, that didn't happen. the other thing is, suspect number two, the guy with the whitecap on, sean, his image is clear enough whereby we can take his image and run it through multiple databases. they've already done that. his pic...

>> sean: i'm not a big pressure cooker. how big would they be? >> i know it when i see it, i but here you have -- look at where they did this. they chose to do this in a place there were thousands of people. you also have this flood of people and photographs and technology where there are images every which way. although hopefully it helps put together a better case, and find out who these two are, it makes it hard. >> sean: there's some motivation behind this, ideology, whatever it is. people on the left say it's got to be a right winger, you know, the rush to judgment, we can speculate all d...

>> sean: i'm not a big pressure cooker. how big would they be? >> i know it when i see it, i but here you have -- look at where they did this. they chose to do this in a place there were thousands of people. you also have this flood of people and photographs and technology where there are images every which way. although hopefully it helps put together a better case, and find out who these two are, it makes it hard. >> sean: there's some motivation behind this, ideology, whatever it is. people on the left say it's got to be a right winger, you know, the rush to judgment, we can speculate all d...

Tragedy. a lot of us are playing a guessing game, because law enforcement doesn't want us to know any more than we have to so they can put the case together and figure out the why. however it does seem that the fact that they have put this out to us means they felt they needed to, because certainly they don't want to give us more, because they can do a better job when there aren't people playing detective on the outside, potentially getting involved, but they need the public's help. now that the pictures will be flooded hopefully wherever these two are can be flushed out. >> sean: andy, i don'...