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Democrats say it doesn't matter if it's going up. you want to make sure that you don't default on it. >> bob: that is your bank account saving. daps i will give bob a heart attack. give republicans some credit for getting the debate where it is now. >> bob: i certainly do. >> dana: you have to remember, congresswoman maxine waters saying she is willing to talk about entitlement reform and social security. >> bob: i take my hat off -- i don't say it off but i will take my hat off for tea party people, they got the debate in front and center. silly debate. >> andrea: don't celebrate too soon. ta...

>> bob: i certainly do. >> dana: you have to remember, congresswoman maxine waters saying she is willing to talk about entitlement reform and social security. >> bob: i take my hat off -- i don't say it off but i will take my hat off for tea party people, they got the debate in front and center. silly debate. >> andrea: don't celebrate too soon. tax increases. >> bob: i been in washington 30 years. nothing sure except they are going on vacation. >> eric: let's say they get a deal together in the senate, then it goes back to the house, right? you're sure it will pass? >> bob: i'm not sure. >> g...

Said. i do disagree with comparing republicans to nazis. when you invoke that, you miss the conversation. when he's talking about how republicans dismiss, you know, the facts all the time, you know what? me taking my partisan hat off, part of the campaign tactic of whether you're republican, although i would say the republicans do it better, they take it to an art. but the ideal of muddying up the waters and sort of muddying up the facts in a way so that it blurs both sides for voters is an old-time campaign tactic that it happens on both sides. can we be critical of that? yes, and we should b...