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We've turned to her over the years and of course she joins us tonight. it is really nice to have you here. thank you for making time. i know it's a difficult day. >> thank you so much for having me, rachel. good to be here to talk to you about this. >> let me just ask about your contacts in afghanistan either personal or work colleagues and what today means for people who you've been in touch with. >> rachel, it is devastating. it's pure devastation. everyone i've been talking to feels completely betrayed. we can argue about whether america should have pulled out or not but really what matters...

The u.s. has changed course over the years. and, of course, she joins us tonight. it is really nice to have you here. thank you for making time. i know it's a difficult day. >> thank you so much for having me, rachel. good to be here to talk to you about this. >> let me just ask about your contacts in afghanistan either personal or work colleagues and what today means for people who you've been in touch with. >> rachel, it is devastating. it's pure devastation. everyone i've been talking to feels completely betrayed. we can argue about whether america should have pulled out or not but really w...