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Jackson. i just want to point to one thing that senator blunt said that defies the logic he's using not to vote for her. and he is right that he has consistently said it's not just about qualification for a lifetime appointment. he has said that before. i believe he voted for justice kavanaugh who was academically qualified, but demonstrated he wasn't qualified for lifetime appointment based on his behavior and accusations against him. but secondly, republicans, some republicans had voted twice for ketanji brown jackson to have a lifetime appointment. her district court judge appointment was a...

Voted for her, including lindsey graham. so i think tara's point about this isn't really about her qualifications. >> um-hmm. >> it's what makes this the most offensive moment i think i've seen in a confirmation process almost -- except we did have kavanaugh, but in the sense that she is so utterly qualified and this isn't about her. i actually think this is much more about politics and looking for wedge issues and finding one for upcoming elections, and they know and understand she's qualified and that's what makes it horrendous. >> um-hmm. and, aunt gloria, you know, maya just brought up som...

We need to move forward. if they can hold it back to the previous four years, they will. you know, it's always been that case. i've seen it myself, you know. we cannot afford to react. we have to be -- we have to make sure we're in control, because if we're not, she's just an emotional black woman. that's what they're going to say. kavanaugh was able to do this and nobody, you know, they weren't concerned about that. we cannot afford that. >> i was going to get you, aunt gloria, to define the "we." i know who the we is. tara knows who the we is. maya knows who the we is. everybody knows who th...

Court, remember his supreme court hearing where he is barking at senators and popping off and being downright nasty. what do you make of that? the man who voted for kavanaugh has a problem with jackson? >> it's always the same. they feel like they have -- they can do more than what we can do, you know. she cannot afford to, you know, lash out or be emotional, but he can. they accept their own, but they don't accept us. it is so obvious, this domination, you know. there is a fear that, yes, you may have a diverse congress and more diverse than what it is now, but those who are in power or who h...