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>> look, i don't know if it's embarrass president because as we both know donald trump i think is incapable of embarrassment, but i do think that what we see is donald trump being very aggressive in protecting the one thing we know he holds most dear, and that's trump. >> well, i think no matter how he cuts it though this brings him down as a perceived power broker. how much power do you have when you can't get the leading contenders to come to your forum? >> he would argue he did get the leading contender to come. newt gingrich said yes right away. >> newt, leading contenders. >> true. >> you...