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murray that giuliani was notified by prosecutors that he would be a target in this investigation. as you noted, this is the fulton county investigation into donald trump and his allies' actions after he lost the 2020 election in that state. now, he was already, giuliani, scheduled to testify in front of a grand jury after being subpoenaed on wednesday. his lawyers now say that he is still going to do so, but they would not answer questions on whether or not he would invoke the fifth amendment, again, because he's now been told officially that he is a target of this investigation. at ...

Interview -- and granted, those are difficult with no american embassy there. but certainly there are a large number of individuals that did not get out, but there were also a large number of individuals that did get out and continue to try and get out. but truthfully, you're talking about -- if you calculate all the individuals who say they should get out without proof of an siv, a special immigrant visa, you're talking about close to 250,000 to 500,000 people. that's an awful lot of immigrants coming out of the country of afghanistan, and not all of them worked for the u.s. or nato governmen...

Context. clarissa, i remember so vividly how often we talked exactly a year ago about what the fate would be for all of the fixers and the helpers who worked with the americans over the last decade and what would become of them, if the taliban would instantly kill them if they identified them. so what has happened to all of them? >> reporter: well, tens of thousands of them are still here. they are trying to get their special immigrant visas processed. that is proving to be a very complex and slow-moving process, partly because it requires an in-person interview that would have taken place at ...

160,000 helpers and fixers, plus their families, that includes their families, i should say, that are still trying to get out on those special visas. that's just a higher number than we had and what do you think about whether or not the taliban has honored their commitment not to retaliate against them? >> well, let me start this way, by saying, no, they have not honored their commitment not to retaliate against those who worked with the united states. there's evidence of that already. what i would say is that number, and that anecdotal information that clarissa just gave, it may be true, it m...