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Separating them in the first place. that is the opposite of what is happening. what jacob described is the incarceration of children and they're diapers aren't getting changed because they're being treated lielk criminals they can't touch. >> they talk about this in clinical terms, a matter of law and order, we're enforcing the law, the laws have been on the books a long time. they don't want to he cfocus on children. there is something to notice. this is not a president obviously who has been moved or really seemed to care about carrying the mantle of moral leadership that has defined this pr...