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Why -- why did this -- nobody seemed to know. they didn't see -- i didn't see anything. >> the jail's chaplain, eva smith, pays a visit to glidden's housing unit. >> you were here at that time? >> yes. >> okay. how did you feel? >> i didn't know him that well, but i don't think he killed himself, though. >> okay. see, that's another thought. >> it's definitely fishy. >> at first i thought suicide. at first i thought he ate a bunch of pills or something. and then his roommate at the time, he was still in the unit for a while. he moved out of the unit yesterday. he told us that there was somethi...