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Listen to this. >> we need democrat support. they don't want to give it, because democrats love open borders. let the whole world come in. let the whole world, gang members from all over the place, come on in. we have open borders. they view that possibly, intelligently, accept it's destroying our country. they view that as potential voters. some day they're going to vote for democrats. because they can't win on their policies, which are horrible. they found that out in the last presidential election. >> what's your reaction? >> my reaction is the president has an infan titile response ev time...

It's the establishment who is to blame. they are turning as kevin said in the national review yesterday, he's turning people in the conservative movement against people for being smart or successful and saying that's not something you want to be. that's very dangerous no matter where you do it. >> it's the old bumper sticker messaging, if you will. when you look at this, does the energy that bannon does bring on the right, does it worry some on the left that he will be able to peel away some voters? some saying he's not. he's just reenforcing what they have, the 38 or 37%. >> i don't know if t...

Every time i think he's about to do such and such, he distracts. now they still support him. they would still vote for him against hillary clinton. that's not even a close call. >> right. >> but, mika, that just underlines what we say for a long time. this election was not about donald trump. it was all about hillary and bill clinton. all about america's reaction -- >> that, we saw coming. >> -- to hillary and bill clinton. this election was not about donald trump. >> yeah. >> he was a bit player. >> my brain went like 100 miles an hour when those access hollywood tapes came out i thought this...