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Medgar evers, to john lewis, to fannie lou hamer. let s spend more time memorializing the true heroes of american history. let s not forget that part of the struggle. so maybe fannie lou hamer should go up in that place where robert e. lee was, the one that they just took down. that would be great as far as i m concerned. listen, i get it because i like learning and reading and understanding history. as i said, people are fighting so hard now for our history, for the real history of this country not to be taught. perhaps this is a way that it could be taught. i don t know. but i think you have a point when you say we should examine exactly what we re doing, not necessarily that it couldn t come down. but i want to ask you, you described yourself as a racial optimist. this was back in 2014. but in your book, you write this about donald trump. you say the fealty he elicits reveals and reinforces ugly racial attitudes that are considerably more prevalent, deep seated and influential ....