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Now, he said he wanted to respect the process. didn't get into specifics, but he added this, and he added this with emphasis. my wife a, my daughter and my sn have my first loyalty and always will. i put stanley and country first. nothing -- family and country first. nothing there about loyalty to president trump. in fact, he didn't praise president trump at all during that 45-minute interview. >>te laura: that from abc's jeff stephanopoulousmp reporting the conversation he hadta with michl cohen. he's going to flip! is that really the case? let's bring in dan and chris. dan, i mean, we've bee...

You have the dramatic photo, sitting across from each other. the guy is facing potential jail time. i don't blame him for being worried about his family. it's got to always be through the prism of, ok, we have more bad news for donald trump. of what this? >> this is the umpteenth-thousandth time. we have him. here we go. we had it against flynn. flynn was going to flip. then we had a journalist leave a network today supposedly because of reporting that story in advance. i'm getting tired of it. you're right. you have to view it through the prism of the media that can't stand donald trump. we d...