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Created a distinction and difference with respect to william roddie bryan on why he gave him parole with ash -- and where the judge gave them the possibility of appeal. >> this judge had a lot to say. possibly some of it -- some of it the defendants might try to mine on an appeal, but most of it seemed pretty straightforward. in a sense he maxed out -- excuse me, he almost maxed out the mcmichaels. >> almost, yeah. >> almost, and by that i mean life without the possibility of parole plus 20 was pretty close to the maximum for each of them and essentially gave bryan the

The consequences. >> and, of course, we now know that they were to the degree that the law would allow them based on the sentencing passed on by the judge. charles, when we talked about -- i remember doing live coverage when we got the verdicts back in november, al throw was that question of accountability of justice versus closure, right, there was a sense that at least this time there was at least some level of accountability in this instance. do you see this sentence as part of that story moving forward? in other words, what kind of a message does this send more broadly like in georgia wher...