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Federal official, does it stand? >> i think it will be pretty difficult to have that argument stand. in the law, there are clear cut distinctions between political activity and the scope of the official duties. but let's remember, jim, that the trump administration had a rather unique view of that separation. this was the administration that found it was okay to have the republican national convention on white house grounds. so that the scope that mark med he meadows may bring to this is different where certainly the norms have been and also i believe the law. >> jumps ahead a bit to trump's c...