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And otherwise. he was curious enough to figure out america. he numeric when many other -- >> that's a pivot right there, kellyanne. >> no, the democrats did not -- >> he did not let her slip away. it was very effective. it was one of the best interviews he's done. >> in general, you always walk away from interviews with politicians wishing you'd pushed a little harder. >> have the hosts stopped being funny and started getting too serious? >> it's become a new brand of comedy, i think, that's both informative, and yeah, i do think pretty funny. >> giovanni russonello was hired by "the new york ...

That concerns me. >> he was incredibly prepared. unlike even some news people interviewing her. he would not let her get away with anything. >> i sometimes fear that the president-elect has no curiosity as to the amount they tried -- >> that is completely false. >> okay. >> he has enormous curiosity. i'm there every day with him. he has a number of different meetings every day, briefings and otherwise. he was curious enough to figure out america. he numeric when many other -- >> that's a pivot right there, kellyanne. >> no, the democrats did not -- >> he did not let her slip away. it was very ...